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fairly_dinkum (6 ) Jun-18-07 09:27 PDT
I listened to the Town Hall on Saturday. The only question that had any
impact for me concerned the Sponsored Links that show up underneath
Active Listings. I'm talking about the row of text links with the
header that reads, Sponsored Links.
I'm
not talking about the box that included links to the Amazon site and
other selling sites. The seller asking the question wasn't talking
about them either. But, guess what? Mr Cobb answered about those ads. Said they were a mistake and were pulled last Monday.
Out
of my pure pessimistic nature, I did a search to see if any Yahoo
Sponsored Ads appeared. Guess what? Go ahead, guess! They were NOT
showing up on Saturday either. I hadn't checked in a while, so maybe
they'd pulled those last Monday, as well.
Today, they're back.
Tell me that ain't just the slickest thing, EVAH. Hide your horedom
when you're out in public, then when you're back home let the games
begin, anew.
Many report they can't see 'em. Do this: Log out.
Clear ALL cache, cookies, history...every dang thing in your browser.
Reboot, if necessary. You absolutely have to get rid of any parasitic
ebay-cookie that will identify you, and they are longer lasting and
more ID-descriptive than they used to be!
Type www.ebay.com
into your browser. Search for Pierre Cardin Watch. Scroll down below
the active listings. Down below the ebay Express box. See 'em?
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Second
issue is an old one - I raised this concern last March. It involves
every single store seller, but just like a lot of "issues", some can't
see it. If you have a clean browser, from the above steps, maybe you'll
see it.
Go to the Advanced Search screen. Under the heading,
From Sellers, tick the circle for "From specific sellers (enter
sellers' user IDs)". Type in a Store seller's ID (chopsueysisters is
used for this example). Don't change anything else and click on Search.
The page that opens will display all auctions, but only 30 store item
links.
For the Chopsueysisters example, go to the bottom of the list of 30. See that "Showing 30 of 36 items" link. Click that link.
Did the page open to show all of Chopsueysisters' 36 Store items? Or did the page open to the Store's Portal?
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For
some reason, I feel this post has a lifespan of minutes. I'd love to be
wrong on that. I'd also love to read some replies, even if you don't
see anything unusual.
"Balancing the needs of the sellers" does not equate to a choice
between delivering paid-for services, or not delivering those services.
The only things balanced by such failures are your books.
~unknown
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21 replies Date posted Reply #
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rickskatie (1668 ) Jun-18-07 09:29 PDT 1 of
I'm not sure what Yahoo ads you are talking about but Yahoo auctions closed down forever on Father's Day.
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monkey*see*monkey*do (Private ) Jun-18-07 09:35 PDT 2 of
OP is talking about the sponsored ads that are ALL over the site.
Nothing to do with Yahoo auctions.
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fairly_dinkum (6 ) Jun-18-07 10:09 PDT 3 of
Thankie Monkey! I know I'm losing my mind, but thanks for confirming a part of it is still intact.

"Balancing the needs of the sellers" does not equate to a choice
between delivering paid-for services, or not delivering those services.
The only things balanced by such failures are your books.
~unknown
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rickskatie (1668 ) Jun-18-07 10:10 PDT 4 of
I can't find anything but eBay or Victoria's Secret ads. Maybe I'm not looking at the right pages?
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rickskatie (1668 ) Jun-18-07 10:11 PDT 5 of
Never mind. I just noticed your graphic.
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rickskatie (1668 ) Jun-18-07 10:12 PDT 6 of
Do we get a kick-back from the advertisers because our (paid for) listed items generated their sponsoered links?
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fairly_dinkum (6 ) Jun-18-07 10:29 PDT 7 of
Marty, you reading this? I searched for your items and that first page displays "Showing 30 of 446 items".
When
I clicked on the "446 items" link, the page opened to the Stores
Portal. NONE of your remaining 416 items are being shown. Please ask
your contacts to fix this.
Why is this so important? Under the
basic page layout, the left-side navigation box does NOT have an option
to input a seller's ID. Even if the buyer is logged-in, but doesn't
have that option enabled, there is...
No ability to search for a specific seller's items, except via the Advanced Search page.
This is NOT important if all buyers have that option set for their left-side navigation box.
This is NOT important if newbies to the site are not important.
"Balancing the needs of the sellers" does not equate to a choice
between delivering paid-for services, or not delivering those services.
The only things balanced by such failures are your books.
~unknown
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bhearsch (302 ) Jun-18-07 10:32 PDT 8 of
I believe the Amazon Marketplace ads have been removed but not the Yahoo Sponsored ads.
The following quote is from the eBay Town Hall Meeting held at eBay Live last Saturday:
http://www.auctionbytes.com/cab/abn/y07/m06/i18/s04
Donna
Klein from Detroit complained about the sponsored links, embedded text
advertising on the eBay website. "At the bottom of the page," she said,
"you see "buy it on Amazon and Yahoo." What's up with this?"
Cobb
said that had to do with eBay's relationship with Yahoo. There was a
mistake made where people were starting to go off eBay onto the Amazon
Marketplace
"It has been shut down," he said. "But Yahoo
search - this is a test." He said it was a question of if a buyer can't
find something, do we just have them exit or give them an opportunity
to find something? "The jury is still out," he added. But "the number
one priority is to drive transactions on the eBay marketplace."
Editor's
Note: AuctionBytes confirmed that it is only the Amazon Marketplace ads
that have been banned from eBay, the Yahoo sponsored links are set to
appear as part of the advertising test.
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fairly_dinkum (6 ) Jun-18-07 11:05 PDT 9 of
Yeah, the mistake was, "where people were starting to go off eBay...". How dare people do such a thing?
IT's getting so you can't even have an active link without some dunderhead clicking on it. Pitiful.
The sponsored ads are only now appearing due to the current Finding test and ONLY for null-result searches.
And dawn only happens occasionally.
It's as if Bill Cobb isn't even aware of this issue. Can that be true?
"Balancing the needs of the sellers" does not equate to a choice
between delivering paid-for services, or not delivering those services.
The only things balanced by such failures are your books.
~unknown
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chopsueysisters (2067 ) Jun-18-07 11:13 PDT 10 of
Fairly, I don't know which step you are describing. Is it "items by
seller" or "find a member"? I want to see what you are seeing!!

It's 2 weeks & I can't find the featured upgrade section of the SYI form
Can the finding team help me find that?
I couldn't make this stuff up even if I tried! rofl
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fairly_dinkum (6 ) Jun-18-07 11:26 PDT 11 of
Just click on any of the Advanced Search links. The page that opens is
"Search: Find Items". The 4th Bold title is "From Sellers".
Tick
the middle option "From specific sellers (enter sellers' user IDs" and
type in your ID. Then click the Search button or just hit the keyboard
Return key.
This is how buyers search for specific seller(s)
items, unless they have that left-side navigation setup for the seller
ID search-option.
"Balancing the needs of the sellers" does not equate to a choice
between delivering paid-for services, or not delivering those services.
The only things balanced by such failures are your books.
~unknown
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fairly_dinkum (6 ) Jun-18-07 11:37 PDT 12 of
Follow the link circled below and you'll (most likely) see what our buyers have been seeing for a long time.

"Balancing the needs of the sellers" does not equate to a choice
between delivering paid-for services, or not delivering those services.
The only things balanced by such failures are your books.
~unknown
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chopsueysisters (2068 ) Jun-18-07 12:20 PDT 13 of
Fairly,
The page that opens is "Search: Find
Items". The 4th Bold title is "From Sellers". Tick the middle option
"From specific sellers (enter sellers' user IDs" and type in your ID.
Then click the Search button or just hit the keyboard Return key.
See I dont have that. This is what I'm at
http://tinyurl.com/28nt3h
Maybe
you are in a search test? but the screen shot you are showing? that
seems odd no piccy gallery for me. I paid a penny for that, they better
be showing my gallery to someone!

It's 2 weeks & I can't find the featured upgrade section of the SYI form
Can the finding team help me find that?
I couldn't make this stuff up even if I tried! rofl
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fairly_dinkum (6 ) Jun-18-07 13:23 PDT 14 of
Choppy, that link opened the same page as I always see. You'd have to take a screen shot.
This is no test. That advanced search page (screenshot) has always looked like that, as far back as I can remember.
If
you haven't cleared all your cache, cookies, etc. then ebay is dogging
you. You've got to come to the site just like a newbie.
That screen shot of your Store items is what shows underneath your auction listings,
all 14 of them (13 of which have Gal Pics). That is why I mentioned, in
the OP, the store items show up under auctions, even if they are your
own auction.
Your Gal Pics would not show in such a setting. If
you click on that "36 items" link, that is when you'd expect to see the
Gal Pics.
Except, the page of your items do not show up...the Store's Portal page does.
"Balancing the needs of the sellers" does not equate to a choice
between delivering paid-for services, or not delivering those services.
The only things balanced by such failures are your books.
~unknown
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chopsueysisters (2068 ) Jun-18-07 13:38 PDT 15 of
Fairly, now I see it. I just didn't read your instructions right &
that image wasn't sticking in. I have seen this before and it hits a
little closer to home.
http://tinyurl.com/yphx2t
Go there, then click the view listings on the first one, displays just
like how you are saying. I have seen this on the same sellers display,
but not on others. There might of been a newbie I saw that also had it,
but I thought it was strange I was only seeing it on hers. Maybe u can
check mine see if I show up the same way like that. On click it doesn't
look like I'm affected in that view screen

It's 2 weeks & I can't find the featured upgrade section of the SYI form
Can the finding team help me find that?
I couldn't make this stuff up even if I tried! rofl
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fairly_dinkum (6 ) Jun-18-07 13:41 PDT 16 of
Shown below is the upper part of the Advanced Search page, as I see it.
See the 'ticked' circle, beside your seller ID?
When
the Search button is clicked, your listings show up as shown in the
screenshot above. Here's a link to THAT page...scroll down and click on
your "36 item" link.
http://tinyurl.com/3btqne

"Balancing the needs of the sellers" does not equate to a choice
between delivering paid-for services, or not delivering those services.
The only things balanced by such failures are your books.
~unknown
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postcardsandmore (4296 ) Jun-18-07 13:48 PDT 17 of
CSS...I just checked and this is terrible!
Someone needs to get this fixed and they need to do it quick.
Has anyone posted over on the search board about it?
When I click on the link provided it shows your 14 auction listings. Then shows 30 of 36 store items with a link to see all 36...but that link just takes me to the stores home page.
This is multiplied 1000 times worse by sellers with hundreds or thousands of listings.
What is going on?????
I was going to restock store but I won't do it until this is fixed.
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rickskatie (1668 ) Jun-18-07 13:50 PDT 18 of
Paraphrasing Bill 'Talk to the Cigar' Clinton, depends on what the meaning of OK is...
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chopsueysisters (2068 ) Jun-18-07 13:56 PDT 19 of
PC, are you telling me you went to the URL, and clicked me and you're
seeing only 14? Split out like how that other seller I noticed was?
Cuz I'm clicking and I see it all, not split out

It's 2 weeks & I can't find the featured upgrade section of the SYI form
Can the finding team help me find that?
I couldn't make this stuff up even if I tried! rofl
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fairly_dinkum (6 ) Jun-18-07 13:59 PDT 20 of
This is my last allowed posting, so here goes.
YES!!!
You got it choppy! That is what happens when the seller has fewer than
30 items. If you click on that "page 2" link, it will open to another
"2 page" view.
When you click on THAT page's "page 2" link...you go to the Store's Portal page.
The seller will NEVER have an entire page of their items show up!
YES..someone has finally saw it! Don't forget what you've seen. Some don't believe it or think that it isn't important.
This
problem manifests itself in various ways, depending on if the user is
logged-in, how many items the seller has, more craap than I have
figured out.
I first reported it to CS in March of last year.
You can imagine how "complicated" an issue it can be just explaining to
CS how to see the problem. I gave up after about 6 emails.
I
feel that only the Storesteam could get this issue resolved. They could
be instructed in how to replicate the problem and they could have the
tenacity to see it fixed.
Could.
Thank You!
"Balancing the needs of the sellers" does not equate to a choice
between delivering paid-for services, or not delivering those services.
The only things balanced by such failures are your books.
~unknown
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chopsueysisters (2068 ) Jun-18-07 14:07 PDT 21 of
you should write to Jeff King!

It's 2 weeks & I can't find the featured upgrade section of the SYI form
Can the finding team help me find that?
I couldn't make this stuff up even if I tried! rofl
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postcardsandmore (4296 ) Jun-18-07 14:13 PDT 22 of
I wish I knew how to do a screen shot and then post it here.
Because
I say 14 core listings, then 30 of 36 store listings and then the link
that should have shown me all 36 (the missing 6) just took me to the
stores home page..not yours.
So, those missing 6 listings can't be seen!
Just think what happens to someone with 1000, 2000 or even 200 listings
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The Hype of Mobile Payments
The Hype of Mobile Payments
14 April 2012
EventHorizon1984
There is a growing trend of companies playing fast and loose with the "mobile" descriptor. When these folks talk "mobile" payments, sales, etal., readers/listeners are guided to the assumption that any statistics given are solely for smart phone transactions. Which is not true.
"There are a lot of people talking about mobile payments these days."
John Donahoe, 2012
"I do not think it means what you think it means."
Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride (1987)
By example, eBay paid writer Richard Brewer-Hay stated, "eBay Inc. anticipates continued growth in mobile sales and payments in 2012 as shopping on smartphones and tablet devices." Qualifying "mobile sales and payments" are not only smart phones.
So what is a "mobile" or "mobile payment"?
A standard definition of mobile payment:
"Any payment where a mobile device is used in order to initiate, activate and/or confirm this payment can be considered as a mobile payment. This definition includes a wide palette of approaches, and points out the fact that mobile payments do not restrict themselves to payments via the mobile phone but virtually any mobile device such as a smartphone, PDA, tablet PC or even merchant-operated mobile terminals."
IEEE Symposium on Trends in Communications (SymptoTIC '04), 24-26 October 2004, Bratislava, Slovikia.
Or if you prefer United States based and short:
"Mobile Payment - Payment initiated from a mobile device."
Mobile Payments in the United States
Mapping Out the Road Ahead
Federal Reserve Bank of Boston, Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta, BetterBuyDesign, March 25, 2011
Now a few are asking, 'smart phone, mobile, what's the big deal?'
It's a matter of choice to be completely factual, or choosing to be fast and loose with the details.
"we live in a mobile home. That's a cave that goes places. Only we never went anyplace." Alex Rogan
"A mobile cave that never went anywhere. Fascinating." Grig
The Last Starfighter (1984)
The Merriam-Webster definition of mobile is, "capable of moving or being moved".
By this definition, some companies are loosely telling the truth about "mobile". While that definition of "mobile" is an excellent means of inflating numbers, it is misleading.
Again by example, selected at random a link to point-of-sale (POS) mobile terminals:
http://www.networksolutions.com/merchant-accounts/retail-pos.jsp
These are POS devices that use cell phones for connectivity. As written for one device, "mobile payment processing through your 3G/3GS/4G iPhone".
Note they state "mobile payment processing", i.e. mobile payment.
By one standard definition, these are "merchant-operated mobile terminals".
Let's suppose you're small warehouse seller Acme Widgets. With these mobile devices, in 2011 you processed $1 million in credit card transactions. Acme Widgets could state factually, mobile payments in 2011 reached $1 million. Or state they processed $1 million in transactions through smart phones. Even though they processed zero customer initiated smart phone payments.
Anyone with similar portable, read mobile, POS systems can make the same claims. It's truthful, but nevertheless inflating the mobile payments numbers.
By the way, next time you're shopping at a brick-and-mortar, check out the wireless POS devices. Wireless systems are considered Merriam-Webster mobile. Like your wireless mobile laser printer.
You might ask, 'why bother massaging numbers, mobile payments are huge.'
"eBay's global mobile GMV reached $5 billion in 2011"
Richard Brewer-Hay, 11 January 2012
$6.0 trillion - 2011 total volume of transactions
Visa Inc
While we believe in the future mobile payments will be huge, as a percentage of eCommerce and Commerce today, they are rather small.
The figures for eCommerce as a percentage of total Commerce:
This percentage tracks rather well with numbers from a handful of brick-and-mortar stores:
In the case of Walmart, "2011 online sales amounted to less than 2 percent of its $264 billion in U.S. revenue".
Let's shrink the pie further.
The figures for United States mobile payment/m-commerce:
Worldwide the numbers are:
Yes that would be United States eCommerce is 5.5% of Commerce. With m-commerce being 2% of that 5.5%.
What should you take away from this article? The next time you see someone waving a smart phone and saying $Blahblah "mobile", look for the specific dollar amount breakdowns attributed to smart phones and other devices by region.
Bet you won't see any.
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"In 2011, PayPal's net total payment volume, or TPV, for transactions using mobile devices reached $4 billion"
eBay INC Form 10-K, 31 January 2012
http://www.frbatlanta.org/documents/rprf/rprf_pubs/110325_wp.pdf
"U.S. financial institutions have not offered mobile financial payments because of a perceived lack of a good business case, although the growth of mobile banking implementations and recent mobile payment trials signal this may be changing."
Federal Reserve Bank of Boston, Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta, 25 March 2011
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