Originally Posted Feb-24-07 13:10:28 PST
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Interesting experience with blogs. Post links and articles and then some anonymous fellow calls me a "dufus." You can see their posts below.
Not that anyone doing a blog should expect universal adoration. That would be pathetic.
On the other hand when something's uncalled for:
Background:
More Say It Ain't So Hani - He's Baaack - Vladuz 'Hacker' Taunts eBay
http://eventhorizon1984.typepad.com/event_horizon_1984_blog/2007/06/auctionbytes_he.html
Say It Ain't So Hani - Mysterious 'Vladuz' again hacks eBay employee servers
http://eventhorizon1984.typepad.com/event_horizon_1984_blog/2007/06/the_register_my.html
Hani Durzy Spinmachine - eBay Addresses Vladuz Hacking Incident
http://eventhorizon1984.typepad.com/event_horizon_1984_blog/2007/06/auctionbytes_eb_3.html
On the plus side, it is rather pleasant to see much better sellers using moi as a reference.
Besides, only following this advice:
newlistings
Why make this public at all? Because this particular poster trivializes the incident. They engage in semantics, hacked not hacked, drawing attention away from the what did happen. eBay had a security breach and continued to have a security problem for a minimum span of 24 hours.
Playing word games and minimizing a break-in is irresponsible at best.
The poster does have all the sound and fury of a Spin Machine in action. Wash, rinse, spin, repeat post. Still I've give the benefit of the doubt that this individual has no first-hand experience in computer security.
And finally, there was a rumor floating around that newlistings is Hani Durzy. But I don't think so. Hani would never say:
newlistings
We love* our buyers.
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http://forums.ebay.com/db1/thread.jspa?threadID=1000444856
A pink may not be a pink.
la** Feb-23-07 11:07 PST
From auctionbytes...
He's Baaack - Vladuz 'Hacker' Taunts eBay
By Ina Steiner
AuctionBytes.com
February 23, 2007
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ra** Feb-23-07 11:13 PST 1 of 65
white hats, black hats, ebay needs to tighten up its ship.
no** Feb-23-07 11:24 PST 2 of 65
eBay acknowledged that someone had gained access to a handful of customer service representatives' email accounts
What does this tell you? It tells me that eBay is so lax on their education about hackers and phishing email (not to mention protection from same) that their own employees don't even know how to protect themselves!
Durzy added that eBay already notifies users in the event of account hijackings
Yup, after the fact when it's too late!
ph** Feb-23-07 11:57 PST 3 of 65
There was an article (blog?) last week about this guy. He had posted screen shots of him logged in to an Ebay database with all sorts of "hidden" Ebay information including passwords.
http://www.ebaymotorssucks.com/rflello.htm
wh** Feb-23-07 12:03 PST 4 of 65
Ebay needs to HIRE this guy!!!
Com'on ebay, think about it! We need this guy on OUR side!
newlistings (1158 ) Feb-23-07 14:25 PST 5 of 65
He is not a hacker. Anyone can go to their preferences, change their email account to "@ebay" and then post on the board with a pink "titlebar". That is, until they get narued for posing as an ebay employee.
Do you really think that ebay can be hacked by one romanian? ha, the brits have more savvay and they can't do it either.
la** Feb-23-07 15:36 PST 6 of 65
Well now we understand you're not a hacker.
You can't imitate 'real' pink title bars. He got into the eBay network through a hijacked VPN connection. Additionally, he has published screenshots of Trust and Safety tools as well as usernames and passwords of eBay users (he blocked half of the password so others wouldn't steal it).
At any rate, this goes to show there's more than one way hackers can get your account. They might just hack eBay!
ba** Feb-23-07 15:43 PST 7 of 65
They can do hack eBay all the time. We've seen it right here on the board; people's feedback going from nothing to a thousand or two overnight, etc.
ra** Feb-23-07 15:46 PST 8 of 65
You do not have to be a skilled hacker to hack ebay or paypal. The advent of the 'net has made it way to easy to hack.
newlistings Feb-23-07 15:49 PST 9 of 65
usernames and passwords of eBay users
obtained from phishing
from nothing to a thousand or two overnight
merged ID's
ph** Feb-23-07 15:51 PST 10 of 65
I posted about the UK board discussion regarding this guy earlier this week and got no response.
After it got pushed to page 2 by all the "what should I name my new cat" and why does Rich do .....posts, I deleted it.
newlistings (1158 ) Feb-23-07 16:01 PST 11 of 65
Look at all the ebayer's posts. They all have their usernames only in the title bars.
Look at all the pink's posts. They all have their usernames as "@ebay".
Go back and look at Vladuz's posts with the pink title bar and you will see that his username does not have the "@ebay" after it, which would show if he really did post as a stolen pink's name.
Just because someone says something doesn't make it true. You need facts to back it up.
The truth is, ebay's site does NOT get hacked every day, much less paypal's.
ba** Feb-23-07 16:04 PST 12 of 65
The truth is, ebay's site does NOT get hacked every day, much less paypal's.
LOL...And you would know this...like...how?
newlistings (1158 ) Feb-23-07 16:07 PST 13 of 65
check out what I wrote about the "@ebay".
Look at his posts.
They do not have it.
Wouldn't that be some proof that he did not post with a stolen pinks name?
Now show me the proof. Any shred of evidence where the ebay site gets hacked all the time, and I'll apologize to you.
my** Feb-23-07 16:08 PST 14 of 65
A pink is just a pink,
a sigh is just a sigh
newlistings (1158 ) Feb-23-07 16:09 PST 15 of 65
ph** Feb-23-07 16:24 PST 16 of 65
Do a Google search on Vladuz and come back. It's a hack and he's hijacked a TON of seller's accounts.
ra** Feb-23-07 16:25 PST 17 of 65
Anyone who thinks ebay/paypal are not hacked daily is living on the river known as denial. You can be locked out of your paypal acct with just a few clicks. And no, it has nothing to do w/phishing and spoof emails.
ba** Feb-23-07 16:38 PST 18 of 65
HYey,
check out what I wrote about the "@ebay".
Look at his posts.
They do not have it.
Wouldn't that be some proof that he did not post with a stolen pinks name?
No, that could just mean he may not have thought to hack that part, he didn't care to hack that part or he was drunk and had no idea he NEEDED to hack that part. Your first clue here might be that there is no preference option to make your posts pink. ;)
Now show me the proof. Any shred of evidence where the ebay site gets hacked all the time, and I'll apologize to you.
I have no idea how often the site gets hacked. I will email Meg and Bill Cobb for copies of their server log files and as soon as they get them to me, I'm glad to get them to you.
In the meantime, if THIS was not a hack, then why is eBay saying it was but downplaying it:
"Yesterday morning we reported on a spate of hacking attacks carried out against eBay Inc. by a Romanian hacker by the name of Vladuz, and also on an interview with eBay spokesman Hani Durzy done by Auctionbytes. In the interview Durzy flatly lied about Vladuz's abilities and "accomplishments" saying that Vladuz only HAD access to employee servers and their accompanying databases. Last night Vladuz responded personally to Durzy after hacking into the discussion forums on eBay.de (Germany) by taking responsibility for all of the recent account break-ins and fraudulent listings associated with such."
http://firemeg.blogspot.com/
newlistings (1158 ) Feb-23-07 16:40 PST 19 of 65
Too bad all his posts are pulled from last night.
Maybe someone will come here with a screen shot to show he only had a pink title bar without the @ebay after his name.
If he hacked into ebay's site,why didn't he do it again after he was naru'd?
You think ebay's techs can find some obscure security hole that only he knew about and patch it right away?
They can't even fix the back button after months of errors.
If he had access to trust and safety tools, he'd be here right now, posting with the rest of us, pink bar and all.
st** Feb-23-07 16:46 PST 20 of 65
I bet if you posted a problem to the Valduz pink, you'd get a better response than from a real pink! :^O
ba** Feb-23-07 16:49 PST 21 of 65
newlistings, you are simply lost here but that doesn't mean you're a bad feller. Trust and Safety tools, don't have a darned thing to do with the hacking into employee servers and their databases that EBAY says was hacked.
Now, you wanted some proof, I provided you with the proof that even eBay admits it was hacked.
It's now your duty to refute that proof with some references. Thanks for your kind attention to this.
newlistings (1158 ) Feb-23-07 16:50 PST 22 of 65
Any dufus can write a blog. He didn't even spell Rob Chesnut correctly.
He's using the word "hack" in error.
Even so, you failed to read the most important part in the story of the alleged "hack"
"Whether Vladuz does have access to customer info or not has yet to be seen,"
newlistings (1158 ) Feb-23-07 16:53 PST 23 of 65
ba** Feb-23-07 16:54 PST 24 of 65
LOL...perhaps the silliest comeback I've ever read on here. A server can be hacked without gaining access to customer info. Do you understand how computers work?
ph** Feb-23-07 16:57 PST 25 of 65
I'm not sure why you are fixated on seeing a pink title bar without the @ but here you go:
http://blogs.ebay.com/world_securities
newlistings (1158 ) Feb-23-07 16:58 PST 26 of 65
You didn't prove anything.
I said proof that ebay and paypal get hacked all the time.
Showing me one blog where two people use the word hack for stolen passwords is nothing.
The auuthor even admits that the rep he interviewed was a "new underling employee"
ph** Feb-23-07 17:01 PST 27 of 65
New,
Do you believe the earth is round?
newlistings (1158 ) Feb-23-07 17:02 PST 28 of 65
That's my point, thanks.
Those aren't the posts I saw on the US board last night but you can see when he posted with a pink bar it only had his name.
If he really had a stolen pink's ID, it would've had @ebay.
Like you can see on claire@ebay's post at the very top of this forum.
ba** Feb-23-07 17:03 PST 29 of 65
He don't know what he believes, but he is just going to pick something and then argue it until blue in the monitor. :)
ma** Feb-23-07 17:05 PST 30 of 65
One thing's for certain: the fake pink sure did know how to say things as they really are. Hani Durzy must be seething...
ba** Feb-23-07 17:06 PST 31 of 65
Those aren't the posts I saw on the US board last night but you can see when he posted with a pink bar it only had his name.
So how did he do this without hcking into an emplyee server. Quit dodging and give the steps, 1, 2, 3 etc. as to how this is done.
If he really had a stolen pink's ID, it would've had @ebay.
No one said he had "stolen a pink's ID" Produce the post and quote where that was stated.
newlistings (1158 ) Feb-23-07 17:06 PST 32 of 65
and you're not?
ma** Feb-23-07 17:07 PST 33 of 65
Those aren't the posts I saw on the US board last night but you can see when he posted with a pink bar it only had his name.
??? Because he didn't bother to include @ebay.com in his hacked user name you don't believe that he hacked into the system?
Maybe someone should write a guide on proper hacking etiquette.
ba** Feb-23-07 17:08 PST 34 of 65
and you're not?
Correct. :)
newlistings (1158 ) Feb-23-07 17:13 PST 35 of 65
You are missing the point.
He posted with a pink title bar to "prove" he was hacking ebay.
Go back and read what I wrote about the difference in a pink's post and registered ebayer's post.
The fact is he COULDN'T change his name to @ebay because he really wasn't hacked in at all, he used a cheap trick to start a rumor that a few believe.
now, aside from a stray blog, can you show me proof that ebay and paypal get hacked all the time? Maybe a few CNN stories or reliable articles?
ba** Feb-23-07 17:17 PST 36 of 65
Time for you to start showing a little backup for your silly assertions. Prove this:
he really wasn't hacked in at all, he used a cheap trick to start a rumor
What trick? Detail it out so we can all be in on this tidbit of techy knowhow.
newlistings (1158 ) Feb-23-07 17:19 PST 37 of 65
newlistings (1158 ) Feb-23-07 17:20 PST 38 of 65
But if you go back and read post #5 you can see the "tidbit"
se** Feb-23-07 17:20 PST 39 of 65
Newlistings, I know what you are talking about. You use the title bar in your post to make it look like another post?
ba** Feb-23-07 17:23 PST 40 of 65
I don't think I can do that....
Right, but keep arguing anyhow and don't let facts get in your way.
BTW, everyone but you noticed that the blogger wasn't opining on that site, he was quoting the auctionbytes site with links directly to it. That site is very reputable. It might behoove you to actually read what what I post. ;)
newlistings (1158 ) Feb-23-07 17:24 PST 41 of 65
go to your my ebay. my account. change your email address to
.......... { email address illegally posted, edited out } ..........
Then come back and brag about how you can hack ebay.
Then get ready for a naru for posing as a pink.
se** Feb-23-07 17:26 PST 42 of 65
Ah. Thanks I get it now.
Well then, I think it is someone elses turn to try.
newlistings (1158 ) Feb-23-07 17:27 PST 43 of 65
Right, but keep arguing anyhow
Looks like you only read things out of context to make yourself look right.
That site is very reputable.
We're going in circles now, you guys said ebay and paypal get hacked all the time.
I asked you for proof.
You come back with one blog that misinforms about one romanian with a small list of user names and say that's proof?
come on
ba** Feb-23-07 17:43 PST 44 of 65
I asked you for proof.
Quit dodging. LOL…You ignore every post to you. It's time for you to put up or shaddup as you are just cutting and pasting your old posts that have been refuted. Now please answer these queries to you:
1) How do you address the FACT that eBay admits it was a hack. You simply try to twist the debate into, “yeah, but you guys have to prove how OFTEN eBay is hacked.” This completely changes the argument as I never made an assertion as to how often they are hacked. If you think I did, then quote and reference the post.
2) So how did he do this without hacking into an employee server. Quit dodging and give the steps, 1, 2, 3 etc. as to how this is done. Also how did he get into the German discussions about him when he had no access?
3) Your statement: he really wasn't hacked in at all, he used a cheap trick to start a rumor. How? What trick? Spell it out in detail.
Ahhh…But you won’t because your blowing air out of a body cavity. ;)
newlistings (1158 ) Feb-23-07 17:51 PST 45 of 65
You're worse than the buyers. Please read carefully.
Go to post 5.
go to post 41.
Also, ebay did NOT say that they were hacked. You are reading a blog about two dufus's talking about things they don't know about.
Simply stated a hacker is any programming specialist who has the expertise to enter a computer or network without proper authorization http://www.bama.ua.edu/~wilso098/project/sources.html
This guy stole some passwords. Logged on to boards, changing his name from Vladu to Vladusgi and a few others. Anyone can do that.
YOU are the one that is dodging.
ba** Feb-23-07 17:58 PST 46 of 65
Go to post 5.
go to post 41.
No thank you. I want you to put your argument in your own words as I do.
Also, ebay did NOT say that they were hacked. You are reading a blog about two dufus's talking about things they don't know about.
This is an old argument that has been refuted. That information came from auctionbytes a reputable site and can be found here:
http://www.auctionbytes.com/cab/abn/y07/m02/i23/s01
Simply stated a hacker is any programming specialist who has the expertise to enter a computer or network without proper authorization
No chit, Sherlock? I think everybody already knows this. Now, quit dodging and answer your queries point by point as I do for you. Here they are again:
1) How do you address the FACT that eBay admits it was a hack. You simply try to twist the debate into, “yeah, but you guys have to prove how OFTEN eBay is hacked.” This completely changes the argument as I never made an assertion as to how often they are hacked. If you think I did, then quote and reference the post.
2) So how did he do this without hacking into an employee server. Quit dodging and give the steps, 1, 2, 3 etc. as to how this is done. Also how did he get into the German discussions about him when he had no access?
3) Your statement: he really wasn't hacked in at all, he used a cheap trick to start a rumor. How? What trick? Spell it out in detail.
They're not going away. ;)
newlistings (1158 ) Feb-23-07 18:04 PST 47 of 65
AY CARUMBA....post 5 and 41 ARE my words.
I think you should take a break and go back and read the whole thread and you'll see that all of your friends have left you because they also, cannot show any kind of proof of how easy it is to hack ebay and paypal all the time.
Gotta go now, bye
ba** Feb-23-07 18:08 PST 48 of 65
Gotta go now, bye
How convenient. And I was just getting warmed up. :)
ph** Feb-23-07 18:14 PST 49 of 65
I thought I quit posting out of frustration. Hmmm....
la** Feb-23-07 18:58 PST 50 of 65
Just because someone says something doesn't make it true. You need facts to back it up.
The truth is, ebay's site does NOT get hacked every day, much less paypal's.
You still don't get it. eBay has admitted he has hacked them. Which part of that don't you get? Also, I worked for a network security firm. So when I tell you what something can't be done and what can be, I know what I'm talking about.
You can't make the titlebar pink by itself. You can't use an HTML or Javascript code on a normal post and imitate it. The post was by an eBay staff member's account. There's no "tricks" -- the inherent permissions on that post were real.
newlistings (1158 ) Feb-23-07 22:30 PST 51 of 65
NO YOU don't get it.
eBay has admitted he has hacked them.
No they didn't, the author said it was one
new underling employee that he talked to and it still wasn't proven.
Do you know that most of the ebay employees don't even know what the term "naru" means?
If ebay was really hacked, that guy would've gotten a lot more info than a few ebay sellers names and passwords.
If you really worked for security than you would know that even employees can't read encrypted info.
If ebay was really hacked, it would be Headline News, not tucked away in some blog.
Now for the last time.
Look at the link that you guys kindly offered with the name vladuzsgi in the pink titlebar on the german board.
see?no "@ebay.com"
http://www.firemeg.com/dontouch/vladeng1.htm
Now look at a real pink's post on the same board.
[email protected]
http://forums.ebay.de/thread.jspa?threadID=1300014051&tstart=0&mod=1172189333541
If the romanian really did what he said he did, then it would look exactly like the pink's.
Not Something like the pink's.
Now I really do have to go, got a long weekend of fun and games.
ra** Feb-23-07 23:08 PST 52 of 65
an article that lays out some hints on ebay hacking.
http://antivirus.about.com/od/emailscams/a/ebayhijacking.htm
still doesn't address the many other ways to hack ebay/paypal, but at least it points out non-phished ebay hijackings are a real issue- and offers tips to protect yourselves
la** Feb-24-07 06:11 PST 53 of 65
Now for the last time.
Look at the link that you guys kindly offered with the name vladuzsgi in the pink titlebar on the german board.
see?no "@ebay.com"
It's like talking to a newbie that doesn't know what he's talking about. What are your credentials in network security? None I assume from the way you're talking.
Your main argument on why the "hack" didn't happen is because the pink title bar doesn't have @ebay.com. Umm usernames on eBay doesn't necessarily have to get @ebay.com. Meg admitted she had a buyer id. It certainly wouldn't show @ebay.com. Your assumption here is that in order for an eBay employee to exist, they need to have @ebay.com. That's rather simple...let me explain why your argument doesn't hold water.
If the pink title bar exist, the privileges of an eBay employee or moderator exists. If he was able to modify his username and change it accordingly (like any eBay user can), he did it to reflect that he had the ability to. You cannot change the title bar pink unless you have the permissions to do so on the message board.
Do you get it now? Let me try to make it even more simplier. You can't start a car without a key or hot wiring it. This guy managed to start a car that he didn't own. Now you're saying oh because he didn't look like the owner he didn't start the car. But he did.
lol.
And now here's additional info for you from Auctionbytes....
eBay spokesperson Hani Durzy said he did not intentionally mislead reporters when he said on Wednesday that eBay had successfully prevented Vladuz from continuing to access the handful of customer service email addresses, but said that was true to the best of eBay's knowledge at the time. "He's very good," Durzy said of Vladuz, "and apparently brazen." Durzy said to the best of eBay's knowledge, Vladuz has only had access to a handful of customer service representative accounts.
Okay -- if eBay says their customer service reps accounts were hacked, why is it so hard for you to believe? Do you think eBay is invincible?
ba** Feb-24-07 06:30 PST 54
His elevator doesn't go all the way to the top. IOW, you're wasting your time. ;)
newlistings (1158 ) Feb-24-07 07:09 PST 55
Seriously, if you do know as much as you pretend, why didn't anyone of you help this lady out with a simple problem ?
http://forums.ebay.com/db1/thread.jspa?threadID=1000444799&tstart=40&mod=1172268556330
These threads were side by side when this discussion started.
And if you think that it is so easy to "hack" ebay why don't you put your money were your keyboard is and come back and tell me what my password is.
The original term for hacking was to gain access to a computer with administrative rights, not stealing someone's password.
If the Romanian really hacked ebay like he pretended, he would have access to cgi scripts and sql databases. Not even most of the ebay employees have that kind of access.
If you want to compare it to driving a car like you did, then what you're calling hacking is sitting in the driveway with the motor running and saying that "daddy let you drive."
Did you even read any of the links you posted? If you did, you would see that all of them that claim to be about hacking, end up explaining that passwords were collected by phishing. Not thousands of usernames and passwords stolen like a real hacker would, but a few passwords where the "hacker" can log on as a "user" and steal the individual's credit card info.
You and the few self appointed experts that can write a blog are changing the term.
La**{edited out}, trying reading your own post with your monitor instead of your keyboard and you will see that "ebay" did not say they were hacked.
something eBay says happens due to phishing attacks.
People are confusing the word "hacked" with "account hijackings"
Click on the link in your own post and read this:
eBay finally responded to an inquiry from the Register in the UK and acknowledged that someone had obtained access to a small number of eBay email accounts
That new spokesperson in the original blog that said the Romanian hacker had gotten into ebay employee accounts was only fooled the same way you were with the pink titlebar.
He didn't forget to add
the @ebay to his name, he couldn't
Do you even know how computers work?
Well, I know enough that you can't "put" your username in the title bar.
It's done by a code snippet when you post to a thread and it's designed to show the pink's name as [email protected] or .de or whereever they are and the "users" with just their screen name.
The Romanian fooled you. It was a hoax.
He's NARU'D by a real administrator.
If he was a real hacker, he would be posting to me right now.
ba** Feb-24-07 07:13 PST 56
LOL...You're a frikkin' broken record.
ph** Feb-24-07 07:18 PST 57
The links given earlier have screen shots of him posting with and without the @ebay. Are you arguing both sides?
ba** Feb-24-07 08:06 PST 58
Ahhh....our latest troll emerges. Welcome! :)
se** Feb-24-07 08:08 PST 59
To PINK or not to PINK. That is the question....
newlistings (1158 ) Feb-24-07 08:11 PST 60
Do a search for any username on ebay any where in the orld and it will not show your e-mail address as it does in this screen shot
my** Feb-24-07 08:18 PST 61
I wonder how many ebay customers we're loosing because of a stupid blog that talks about ebay's servers being hacked.
Boycott the Firemeg Blog!
Or maybe I'll do a counter blog to the firemeg blog. I'll be as bad as he is, but maybe the money I make from the counter blog will make up for sales I'll never make because of customers who will be afraid to have an ebay account for fear of a hacker getting to their info.
ra** Feb-24-07 09:53 PST 62
newlistings, do a little research on how you can lock up peoples' paypal accts and if you're really skilled, get to the security questions/verification page. it has nothing to do w/stealing anyone's password or phishing or spoof emails. it DOES reveal individuals' bank acct, credit card acct, and other identifying information. it can also be done w/ebay.
how do i know this? both ebay and paypal higher ups confirmed it via telephone in extensive conversations re the companies' multiple security loopholes. have any of you actually talked to ebay/paypal DIRECTLY regarding security? and by 'talk', i don't mean 'got a form email', but rather 'have direct #s to executive escalations and other individuals'.
anyone who thinks hacking ebay/paypal is just about 'phishing' is in denial.
wh** Feb-24-07 10:51 PST 63
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ph** Feb-24-07 10:57 PST 64
Go back and look at Vladuz's posts with the pink title bar and you will see that his username does not have the "@ebay" after it, which would show if he really did post as a stolen pink's name.
You mean like this?
http://blogs.ebay.com/world_securities
check out what I wrote about the "@ebay".
Look at his posts.
They do not have it.
Wouldn't that be some proof that he did not post with a stolen pinks name?
Oh... you mean like this:
http://www.ebaymotorssucks.com/rflello.htm
ra** Feb-24-07 11:49 PST 65
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la ** Feb-24-07 16:55 PST 67 of 79
newlistings, you seem to have ignored my point and not create a counterpoint. So I went ahead and reposted my questions for you as well as making the content a little bit bigger to make it easier for you to read. I'm going to do my best to spell this out as slow and as easy as possible.
Now for the last time.
Look at the link that you guys kindly offered with the name vladuzsgi in the pink titlebar on the german board.
see?no "@ebay.com"
It's like talking to a newbie that doesn't know what he's talking about. What are your credentials in network security? None I assume from the way you're talking.
Your main argument on why the "hack" didn't happen is because the pink title bar doesn't have @ebay.com. Umm usernames on eBay doesn't necessarily have to get @ebay.com. Meg admitted she had a buyer id. It certainly wouldn't show @ebay.com. Your assumption here is that in order for an eBay employee to exist, they need to have @ebay.com. That's rather simple...let me explain why your argument doesn't hold water.
If the pink title bar exist, the privileges of an eBay employee or moderator exists. If he was able to modify his username and change it accordingly (like any eBay user can), he did it to reflect that he had the ability to. You cannot change the title bar pink unless you have the permissions to do so on the message board.
Do you get it now? Let me try to make it even more simplier. You can't start a car without a key or hot wiring it. This guy managed to start a car that he didn't own. Now you're saying oh because he didn't look like the owner he didn't start the car. But he did.
lol.
And now here's additional info for you from Auctionbytes....
eBay spokesperson Hani Durzy said he did not intentionally mislead reporters when he said on Wednesday that eBay had successfully prevented Vladuz from continuing to access the handful of customer service email addresses, but said that was true to the best of eBay's knowledge at the time. "He's very good," Durzy said of Vladuz, "and apparently brazen." Durzy said to the best of eBay's knowledge, Vladuz has only had access to a handful of customer service representative accounts.
Okay -- if eBay says their customer service reps accounts were hacked, why is it so hard for you to believe? Do you think eBay is invincible?
newlistings (1158 ) Feb-24-07 20:08 PST 68
"if eBay says their customer service reps accounts were hacked"
He didn't say ebay was hacked, or the accounts were hacked. Did you read it? He said "only had access"
"The only information he had access to was information contained in emails,"
I did address the other question also about how he posted as a pink but that post is missing somehow.
Before I answer the question again I wanna apologize to the powerseller that I indirectly called a dufus. It appears that he was offended. I didn't mean you were a plain dufus, I need to clarify that. You're most likely more intelligent than most of the ones trying to win this arguement because you can read and write.
But you are a [dufus for posting a blog] about ebay being hacked before you investigated the truth.
Now here's the truth:
look closely at the link someone posted here
http://www.ebaymotorssucks.com/rflello.htm
you will see from the screen shots that this guy registered a name
[email protected]
It shows it that way in the lookup.
SO
Obviously, when he posts(on the board), it is going to show his complete username
(as an email address) in the titlebar.
when someone looks for your username, it doesn't show your email address as his did. Look closely at the screen shots and you will see that I am correct.
Now, if he could really post as a pink, like I was explaining it would've shown in the titlebar as:
[email protected]@ebay.com
If someone was a real hacker they wouldn't keep getting naru'd and making new user names.
HE DID NOT HACK INTO EBAY'S SITE
One thing you were right about, Mr blog writer.
I am "some anonymous fellow" HOWEVER,when you submit a copy of MY posts to your blogs, it is very unethical to change the actual words as you did.
Now I've pretty much debunked all your links, myths and rumors but some of you still only believe what you wanna believe.And you're dangerous for spreading rumors.
Maybe if you guys were nicer to me, I would've let you in on some real "hacking" techniques like how to post on the powerseller board for years without even being a powerseller.
Or how to make money on ebay without listing a single item for 3 months in a row.
I have a feeling that would go way over your heads also.
Now I'm bored. I'm going to read some blogs about dishtowels, that would be more interesting.
ta ta
la** Feb-24-07 21:48 PST 69
One thing you were right about, Mr blog writer.
Umm...now this is where I scratch my head and say...what? You've lost me. What blog are you talking about?
I am "some anonymous fellow" HOWEVER,when you submit a copy of MY posts to your blogs, it is very unethical to change the actual words as you did.
Once again...you need to make sane statements, what blog are you talking about?
Now, if he could really post as a pink, like I was explaining it would've shown in the titlebar as: [email protected]@ebay.com
You still don't get it. eBay staff member usernames do have a default username that shows the email address but they can at any time change their username as this person did.
He didn't say ebay was hacked, or the accounts were hacked. Did you read it? He said "only had access"
Ok, now you've proved my point that this person had unauthorized access to eBay employee accounts. HELLO! Is there something wrong with your reasoning? A person that has unauthorized access to employee accounts is DANGEROUS. I've managed CRM centers for Apple and BellSouth Internet, nearly all CSR (customer service representative) accounts have some sort of access to user information whether it be username, password, address, etc.
This is dangerous to have. The fact that eBay admitted someone had access to eBay employee accounts is astounding! Now you seem to think this isn't "hacking" -- I don't know what fantasy world you live in, but in the network security industry, any security intrusion is considered hacking (or cracking in script kiddie terms).
Maybe if you guys were nicer to me, I would've let you in on some real "hacking" techniques like how to post on the powerseller board for years without even being a powerseller.
Oh boy, now I've heard everything. Now you're an almighty hacker, "look guys I can post on PowerSeller board without being a PowerSeller" hahaha -- join the club, SquareTrade employees have 0 feedback and they've been posting on here.
Or how to make money on ebay without listing a single item for 3 months in a row.
...and then you woke up. Welcome to the real world, nice to see you.
ma** Feb-25-07 03:07 PST 70
RE: Post 68
You missed typing GOTCHA! at the end...
newlistings (1158 ) Feb-25-07 07:39 PST 71
You are almost the only one besides myself that has posted anything intelligent on this thread.
Please remember to explain it to the others how it works after my post gets pulled again. Or maybe they can copy the post of this PRIVATE board and submit it on one of their public blogs again. I hope they keep the original words intact this time. Any writer that "quotes" someone [copied posts]and then changes the original words have less scruples than a tabloid writer. They have lost all credability.
La**{edited out}***,
You have come to a gunfight with a rubber knife.
that babble in your last post only proves that you read with your mouth instead of your eyes.
Here's a blog that you better suited for.
go debate that.
la** Feb-25-07 08:13 PST 72 of 79
You have come to a gunfight with a rubber knife.
Now that you've embarrassed yourself...if you really can't counter back anymore with any legible remarks, I guess I can accept that comment as an excuse to bow out.
la** Feb-25-07 08:30 PST 73 of 79
RE: Post 68
You missed typing GOTCHA! at the end...
ma**, I agree. I was really wondering if newlistings was kidding, but he (or she) was actually serious. Goes to show, sanity isn't a requirement to be a PS.
newlistings (1158 ) Feb-25-07 08:41 PST 74
ra** Feb-25-07 08:58 PST 75 of 79
lol if sanity were a requirement to be a PS, this board would lose a lot of characters.
newlistings (1158 ) Feb-25-07 09:15 PST 76
Where does it say that? he said "access to information OBTAINED BY EMAILS."
Can some of you old timers clue this new guy in ?
"hacking" into the powerseller boards by non PS's has been done many times in the past, as well as posting with a pink bar in many forms.
It's no wonder you are not allowed to manage CRM centers for Apple and BellSouth Internet anymore.
No one has come up with any shred of proof yet, that ebay's site has actually been hacked, or cracked or whatever you want to call it.
Calling me insane does not prove your point. taking the word "access" out of context does not prove "access to eBay employee accounts"
no matter how many times you post your "point" or make the font bold does not offer real proof.
who's the broken record here?
wh** Feb-25-07 09:30 PST 77
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newlistings (1158 ) Feb-25-07 09:52 PST 78
ra** Feb-25-07 10:03 PST 79
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ma** Feb-25-07 10:12 PST 80
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ra** Feb-25-07 10:15 PST 81
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